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		<title>Comment on Sonja C&#8217;s Solutions by lmhm</title>
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		<dc:creator>lmhm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 May 2013 00:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not enough? ok, z32 read, california a kingdom of lawrence cane.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not enough? ok, z32 read, california a kingdom of lawrence cane.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sonja C&#8217;s Solutions by lmhm</title>
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		<dc:creator>lmhm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 May 2013 00:13:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Need more? z13 read, wantedeternal. atrick of zodiac. turn 180 degrees tha code and you will foundout.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Need more? z13 read, wantedeternal. atrick of zodiac. turn 180 degrees tha code and you will foundout.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sonja C&#8217;s Solutions by lmhm</title>
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		<dc:creator>lmhm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 May 2013 00:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I know, is hard to believe, but in z340 is the complete name, read like this, start with a period, ok?  .lawrencekaneknownaszodiac.navysman. start on row 14 and ends on row 16. Z match the same place, like 21 more letters.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know, is hard to believe, but in z340 is the complete name, read like this, start with a period, ok?  .lawrencekaneknownaszodiac.navysman. start on row 14 and ends on row 16. Z match the same place, like 21 more letters.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sonja C&#8217;s Solutions by lmhm</title>
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		<dc:creator>lmhm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 May 2013 22:42:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Make sense? if you going to work on something, you need a bench poit, right? that was zodiacs bench point. a encoding chart.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Make sense? if you going to work on something, you need a bench poit, right? that was zodiacs bench point. a encoding chart.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sonja C&#8217;s Solutions by lmhm</title>
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		<dc:creator>lmhm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 May 2013 22:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Like i said before, time ago, yuo need a chart, with all codes that zodiac used.
Arabic numbers,
Masonic code
Caesar code in 3,6,9,12 steps
caesar code in 3,6,9,12 steps bakcward.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like i said before, time ago, yuo need a chart, with all codes that zodiac used.<br />
Arabic numbers,<br />
Masonic code<br />
Caesar code in 3,6,9,12 steps<br />
caesar code in 3,6,9,12 steps bakcward.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sonja C&#8217;s Solutions by lmhm</title>
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		<dc:creator>lmhm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 May 2013 22:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On the card, from your secret pal,  paradice means lawrence. can be read, lawrence slaves, by fire, by knife, by gun, by rope. is on caesar code on 3 steps, he use the arabic number too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the card, from your secret pal,  paradice means lawrence. can be read, lawrence slaves, by fire, by knife, by gun, by rope. is on caesar code on 3 steps, he use the arabic number too.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Detailed analysis of the 408 solution by Joseph Covino Jr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph Covino Jr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Apr 2013 10:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This new crime suspense thriller novel advances fresh new heretofore un-investigated plausible LEADS(not far-fetched theories or outlandish suspects)in this case, check it out:
http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/san-franciscos-finest-joseph-jr-covino/1112187069?ean=9780943283333]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This new crime suspense thriller novel advances fresh new heretofore un-investigated plausible LEADS(not far-fetched theories or outlandish suspects)in this case, check it out:<br />
<a href="http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/san-franciscos-finest-joseph-jr-covino/1112187069?ean=9780943283333" rel="nofollow">http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/san-franciscos-finest-joseph-jr-covino/1112187069?ean=9780943283333</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Are the ciphers prime-phobic? by Doc</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Mar 2013 13:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I worked on the &quot;prime&quot; approach about six months ago, and I too noticed the anomaly with the &quot;+&quot; symbol and prime numbers.  Unfortunately, I was stumped after that (as always with the 340).  I did not notice the &quot;B&quot; and prime aversion, though.  

Please keep us updated!  Always exciting to read news on this site!

Doc]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I worked on the &#8220;prime&#8221; approach about six months ago, and I too noticed the anomaly with the &#8220;+&#8221; symbol and prime numbers.  Unfortunately, I was stumped after that (as always with the 340).  I did not notice the &#8220;B&#8221; and prime aversion, though.  </p>
<p>Please keep us updated!  Always exciting to read news on this site!</p>
<p>Doc</p>
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		<title>Comment on Daryll Lathers&#8217; solution makes the front page by ggluckman</title>
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		<dc:creator>ggluckman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2013 00:12:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Doc,

Very ingenious. It&#039;s like a diagram written using the presumed cipher as a canvas.

It gives me 2 (rather wacky) ideas:

1) Perhaps drawing a clockface makes good sense here. Z&#039;s words were:  &quot;The Map coupled with this code will tell you where the bomb is set. You have until Fall to dig it up.&quot; He does add the element of time.

This might suggest a time bomb, set to go off in the &quot;Fall&quot;. (Which does not seem to have occurred.) 

I have often been taken by the potential of the Zodiac reticle to be transformed from a diagram with spatial meanings to a diagram with temporal meanings. I could imagine it being subject to other transformations as well: modulous arithmetic comes to mind, but I am sure I have thought of others, in my dreamier states.

Could it be that we are not only looking for a location, but a time? Presumably a month in Fall. And perhaps even a time in hours? He doesn&#039;t mention a specific hour, but if it were supposed to have been a time bomb, you would think it would eventually come down to hours.

Since I am speculating wildly (it&#039;s 4:30 am and I should be asleep--speculating wildly is the next best thing), I might suggest the following climax to his plan: the bomb turned out to be a dud, but he left it exactly wherever it was because he didn&#039;t dare fiddle with it himself, in case it got triggered. He went quiet out of embarassment. :D

Anyway, all that to say maybe you might be onto something with your clock like diagram.

2) My second idea had to do with the V&#039;s:

The only other overt clue that Z provided was &quot;PS. The Mt. Diablo Code concerns Radians +#inches along the radians&quot;. 

What the above text is not showing is a gratuitous, silent character that looks like a little arrow (^) that points upward at the pound/hash/number sign (#). 

Looking at an image of the original letter, I noticed awhile back that that little arrow is completely superfluous, yet potentially meaningful. 

When I say it is superfluous, I mean that, at a glance, it looks like it belongs there, but it doesn&#039;t. When we hand-write a sentence or two, but forget to include a phrase, we might typically &quot;insert the missing words by writing over top--above, I mean--the ecpxisting string of words, then add a little arrow underneath to clearly mark the insertion point where the added words are supposed to fit in. 

At a glance, it looks as though that is what Z did: it&#039;s as if he used the little arrow to mark the insertion point of the pound sign (#), which was squeezed in as if it had been added as an afterthought. It looks rather natural there.

But, if you think about it, it&#039;s not. The pound sign is not written above the original string of text, it is squeezed in to a very definite spot. It does not need an arrow to mark its insertion point.

Of course, could have been simply put there absent-mindedly, but I suspect Z was quite deliberate about every pen stroke, and I see the potential for meaning.

I have been working on a theory that suggests that the arrow represented the arrow on the circle-cross drawn over M t Diablo, and it still may, but in light of your diagram--and your mention of the letter &quot;V&quot;--that the arrow, when transformed through the X axis, so to speak, begins to look like the letter &quot;V&quot;.

As to the significance, the arrow in the instructions points to a hash sign (#), meaning a number--as in number of inches. Perhaps in the spirit of transformations, that number is determined by a position on a clockface. Perhaps the position of the reversed Vs. 

A follow up step, I might suppose, would (presumably) render a tie-in to the requisite number of inches, as mentioned in the instructions, which when multiplied by the map scale (6.4 inches per mile) would render a radius, perhaps, or maybe a distance along a circumference) to help pinpoint a location.

At any rate, it is very late. My imagination is running wild, but your diagram looks like it has potential to me. It certainly changes how I might think about the cipher. Whether it is correct or not, I don&#039;t know, but it certainly is ingenious.

I better go back to bed.

Best regards,

G]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Doc,</p>
<p>Very ingenious. It&#8217;s like a diagram written using the presumed cipher as a canvas.</p>
<p>It gives me 2 (rather wacky) ideas:</p>
<p>1) Perhaps drawing a clockface makes good sense here. Z&#8217;s words were:  &#8220;The Map coupled with this code will tell you where the bomb is set. You have until Fall to dig it up.&#8221; He does add the element of time.</p>
<p>This might suggest a time bomb, set to go off in the &#8220;Fall&#8221;. (Which does not seem to have occurred.) </p>
<p>I have often been taken by the potential of the Zodiac reticle to be transformed from a diagram with spatial meanings to a diagram with temporal meanings. I could imagine it being subject to other transformations as well: modulous arithmetic comes to mind, but I am sure I have thought of others, in my dreamier states.</p>
<p>Could it be that we are not only looking for a location, but a time? Presumably a month in Fall. And perhaps even a time in hours? He doesn&#8217;t mention a specific hour, but if it were supposed to have been a time bomb, you would think it would eventually come down to hours.</p>
<p>Since I am speculating wildly (it&#8217;s 4:30 am and I should be asleep&#8211;speculating wildly is the next best thing), I might suggest the following climax to his plan: the bomb turned out to be a dud, but he left it exactly wherever it was because he didn&#8217;t dare fiddle with it himself, in case it got triggered. He went quiet out of embarassment. <img src='http://www.zodiackillerciphers.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Anyway, all that to say maybe you might be onto something with your clock like diagram.</p>
<p>2) My second idea had to do with the V&#8217;s:</p>
<p>The only other overt clue that Z provided was &#8220;PS. The Mt. Diablo Code concerns Radians +#inches along the radians&#8221;. </p>
<p>What the above text is not showing is a gratuitous, silent character that looks like a little arrow (^) that points upward at the pound/hash/number sign (#). </p>
<p>Looking at an image of the original letter, I noticed awhile back that that little arrow is completely superfluous, yet potentially meaningful. </p>
<p>When I say it is superfluous, I mean that, at a glance, it looks like it belongs there, but it doesn&#8217;t. When we hand-write a sentence or two, but forget to include a phrase, we might typically &#8220;insert the missing words by writing over top&#8211;above, I mean&#8211;the ecpxisting string of words, then add a little arrow underneath to clearly mark the insertion point where the added words are supposed to fit in. </p>
<p>At a glance, it looks as though that is what Z did: it&#8217;s as if he used the little arrow to mark the insertion point of the pound sign (#), which was squeezed in as if it had been added as an afterthought. It looks rather natural there.</p>
<p>But, if you think about it, it&#8217;s not. The pound sign is not written above the original string of text, it is squeezed in to a very definite spot. It does not need an arrow to mark its insertion point.</p>
<p>Of course, could have been simply put there absent-mindedly, but I suspect Z was quite deliberate about every pen stroke, and I see the potential for meaning.</p>
<p>I have been working on a theory that suggests that the arrow represented the arrow on the circle-cross drawn over M t Diablo, and it still may, but in light of your diagram&#8211;and your mention of the letter &#8220;V&#8221;&#8211;that the arrow, when transformed through the X axis, so to speak, begins to look like the letter &#8220;V&#8221;.</p>
<p>As to the significance, the arrow in the instructions points to a hash sign (#), meaning a number&#8211;as in number of inches. Perhaps in the spirit of transformations, that number is determined by a position on a clockface. Perhaps the position of the reversed Vs. </p>
<p>A follow up step, I might suppose, would (presumably) render a tie-in to the requisite number of inches, as mentioned in the instructions, which when multiplied by the map scale (6.4 inches per mile) would render a radius, perhaps, or maybe a distance along a circumference) to help pinpoint a location.</p>
<p>At any rate, it is very late. My imagination is running wild, but your diagram looks like it has potential to me. It certainly changes how I might think about the cipher. Whether it is correct or not, I don&#8217;t know, but it certainly is ingenious.</p>
<p>I better go back to bed.</p>
<p>Best regards,</p>
<p>G</p>
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		<title>Comment on Daryll Lathers&#8217; solution makes the front page by admin</title>
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